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Кухонне приладдя, товари для дому та господарства і приладдя для закладів громадського харчування

Clarification period
5 days
from Jan 20, 16:00
until Jan 26, 00:00
Call for proposals
6 days
from Jan 26, 00:00
until Feb 1, 15:40
Auction
39 minutes
from Feb 2, 13:42
until Feb 2, 14:21
Qualification
3 days
from Feb 2, 14:21
until Feb 5, 15:30
Offers considered
9 days
from Feb 5, 15:30
until Feb 15, 13:43
Information about customer
Name:
ВИКОНАВЧИЙ КОМІТЕТ КАЛИНІВСЬКОЇ СЕЛИЩНОЇ РАДИ БРОВАРСЬКОГО РАЙОНУ КИЇВСЬКОЇ ОБЛАСТІ
EDRPOU code:
43459903
Web site:
Not indicated
Address:
Україна, 07443, Київська область, Броварський р-н, селище міського типу Калинівка, ВУЛИЦЯ ЧЕРНІГІВСЬКА, будинок 20
About tender
Expected value:
₴87,000.00 including VAT
Minimum price decrement:
₴870.00
Type of purchase item:
The primary object of this contracting process involves physical or electronic goods or supplies.
ID procurement:
UA-2021-01-20-006252-b
Important dates
Clarification period:
Jan 20, 16:00 – Jan 26, 00:00
Offers to be submitted:
Jan 26, 00:00 – Feb 1, 15:40
Auction launch:
Feb 2, 13:42 – Feb 2, 14:21
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Name Quantity Delivery period Place of delivery

Name:

Чашки

Code DK 021:2015: 39221121-1 Чашки

Quantity:

450 штуки

Delivery period:

Feb 15 – Feb 28

Place of delivery:

Україна, 07443, Київська область, смт Калинівка, вул. Шкільна, 8

Item documents:

Нет загруженных документов

Name:

Тарілки

Code DK 021:2015: 39221210-2 Тарілки

Quantity:

650 штуки

Delivery period:

Feb 15 – Feb 28

Place of delivery:

Україна, 07443, Київська область, смт Калинівка, вул. Шкільна, 8

Item documents:

Нет загруженных документов

Name:

Миски

Code DK 021:2015: 39221240-1 Миски

Quantity:

27 штуки

Delivery period:

Feb 15 – Feb 28

Place of delivery:

Україна, 07443, Київська область, смт Калинівка, вул. Шкільна, 8

Item documents:

Нет загруженных документов

Name:

Ложки

Code DK 021:2015: 39223100-2 Ложки

Quantity:

171 штуки

Delivery period:

Feb 15 – Feb 28

Place of delivery:

Україна, 07443, Київська область, смт Калинівка, вул. Шкільна, 8

Item documents:

Нет загруженных документов

Name:

Виделки

Code DK 021:2015: 39223200-3 Виделки

Quantity:

300 штуки

Delivery period:

Feb 15 – Feb 28

Place of delivery:

Україна, 07443, Київська область, смт Калинівка, вул. Шкільна, 8

Item documents:

Нет загруженных документов

Name:

Кастрюлі

Code DK 021:2015: 39221000-7 Кухонне приладдя

Quantity:

21 штуки

Delivery period:

Feb 15 – Feb 28

Place of delivery:

Україна, 07443, Київська область, смт Калинівка, вул. Шкільна, 8

Item documents:

Нет загруженных документов
Terms of payment
Terms of payment:
main stages of financing
Payment after the event:
delivery of goods
Payment type:
postpayment
Payment amount:
100%
Period (in days):
10 ( banking )
Description:
Tender documentation
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audit_5e5b422845264e5c82deea9d4820b7ba.yaml

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Date of publishing:

Feb 2, 14:21
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Оголошення.docx

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Jan 20, 16:00
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sign.p7s

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Jan 20, 16:01
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Проект договору.docx

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Date of publishing:

Jan 20, 16:00
Participants of auction
Participant Offer Status

№:

1

Participant:

Name:
Орлов Вадим
E-mail:
VOREL_2018@UKR.NET
Phone:
380678635843
EDRPOU:
3646003258

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Offer:

₴47,396.00 including VAT

Status:

disqualified

Documents:

Documents submitted with the offer

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Лист про печатку Орлов ВЮ.pdf

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Date of publishing:

Jan 28, 14:37
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Договор перевозки ФОП-ФОП.pdf

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Jan 28, 14:37
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Витяг_08_07_2020_Document_USR_1006873923.pdf

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Jan 28, 14:37
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Контактні данні ФОП Орлов Вадим Юрьевич.pdf

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Jan 28, 14:37
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Dovidka_20224386540790038199_МВС_11_08_2020.pdf

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Date of publishing:

Jan 28, 14:37
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Укрспецторг_Гигиена_нержавейка+эмаль_Турция.pdf

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Jan 28, 14:37
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висновок нерж прибори столові.pdf

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Паспорт+код Орлов ВЮ всі сторінки.pdf

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Jan 28, 14:37
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Висновок алюміній ТД Оптима.pdf

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Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Jan 28, 14:37
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ТКП ФОП Орлов Вадим ВО Калинівської СР.pdf

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Date of publishing:

Jan 28, 14:37
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ПИСЬМО ОПТИМА про несертифікацію.jpg

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Оптима_СЕС_Zauberg_посуд_нержавіючий.pdf

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Довідка Приватбанк відкриті рахунки 02_10_2020.pdf

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Витяг ДФС ФОП Орлов ВЮ з печаткою ДФС.pdf

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Not indicated

Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Jan 28, 14:37
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гигиена Добрушський фарфоровий завод Беларусь.pdf

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Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Jan 28, 14:37
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Уставные ФОП Орлов ВЮ заверенные.pdf

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Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Jan 28, 14:37
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IBAN_рахунок ФОП Орлов Вадим Юрійович.jpg

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Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Jan 28, 14:37

Decision of the responsible person

Document name Document type Confidentiality Date of publishing
pdf
Протокол № 25.pdf

Document type:

Evaluation report

Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 4, 16:45
QES
sign.p7s

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Not indicated

Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 4, 16:47

№:

2

Participant:

Name:
Сергій Майстренко
E-mail:
uaposud@gmail.com
Phone:
+380508060700
EDRPOU:
2801804612

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Contract was uploaded and signed by the customer. Tender completed.

Offer:

₴48,199.00 including VAT

Status:

winner

Documents:

Documents submitted with the offer

Document name Document type Confidentiality Date of publishing
QES
sign.p7s

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Not indicated

Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 1, 13:20
pdf
Довідки, листи.pdf

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Not indicated

Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 1, 13:16
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Наявність МТБ.pdf

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Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 1, 13:16
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Цінова пропозиція.pdf

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Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 1, 13:16
QES
Витяг платника ЄП Майстренко.pdf.p7s

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Not indicated

Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 1, 13:16
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Документи якості.pdf

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Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 1, 13:16
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Копія витяг ЄДР Майстренко.pdf

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Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 1, 13:16
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Авторизаційний лист.pdf

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Not indicated

Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 1, 13:16
pdf
Наявність аналогічного договору.pdf

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Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 1, 13:16
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Витяг платника ЄП Майстренко.pdf

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Not indicated

Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 1, 13:16
pdf
Копія паспорт + код Майстренко.pdf

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Not indicated

Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 1, 13:16
pdf
Порівняльна таблиця технічних характеристик предмету закупівлі.pdf

Document type:

Not indicated

Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 1, 13:16

Decision of the responsible person

Document name Document type Confidentiality Date of publishing
QES
sign.p7s

Document type:

Not indicated

Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 5, 15:30
pdf
Протокол № 30.pdf

Document type:

Evaluation report

Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 5, 15:28

Contract

Document name Document type Confidentiality Date of publishing
QES
sign.p7s

Document type:

Not indicated

Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 15, 13:43
pdf
Договір № 69.pdf

Document type:

Signed contract

Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 15, 13:41

№:

3

Participant:

Name:
Сергей Соколов
E-mail:
msts2001@ukr.net
Phone:
+380672092217,+380442092217,+380507466482,+380935316264
EDRPOU:
31485097

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Offer:

₴48,200.00 including VAT

Status:

Not considered

Documents:

Documents submitted with the offer

Document name Document type Confidentiality Date of publishing
pdf
Протокол о назначении директора.pdf

Document type:

Documents confirming of qualification

Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 1, 12:32
pdf
гарантійний лист для Калинівської СР.pdf

Document type:

Documents confirming of qualification

Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 1, 12:32
pdf
договір 185 (2).pdf

Document type:

Documents confirming of qualification

Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 1, 12:32
pdf
Техпаспорт на автомобіль.pdf

Document type:

Documents confirming of qualification

Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 1, 12:32
pdf
гарантійний лист про характеристики товару для Калинівської СР.pdf

Document type:

Documents confirming of qualification

Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 1, 12:32
pdf
Наявність обладнання.pdf

Document type:

Documents confirming of qualification

Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 1, 12:32
QES
sign.p7s

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Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 1, 13:22
QES
sign.p7s

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Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 1, 12:34
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свідоцтво пдв с печатью.jpg

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Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 1, 12:32
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Реквизити ТОВ МС ТРЕЙД СЕРВІС.pdf

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Documents confirming of qualification

Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 1, 12:32
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тендерна пропозиція Калинівська СР.pdf

Document type:

Price offer

Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 1, 12:59
pdf
тендерна пропозиція Калинівська СР.pdf

Document type:

Price offer

Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 1, 12:32
pdf
лист-згода щодо персональних даних для Калинівської СР.pdf

Document type:

Documents confirming of qualification

Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 1, 12:32
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Лист-відгук стакани паперові (1).pdf

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Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 1, 12:32
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Статут 14.pdf

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Documents confirming of qualification

Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 1, 12:32
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Аналогічні договори.pdf

Document type:

Documents confirming of qualification

Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 1, 12:32
pdf
лист-згода з проектом договору Калинівська СР.pdf

Document type:

Documents confirming of qualification

Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Feb 1, 12:32

№:

4

Participant:

Name:
Лобановська Вікторія Вадимівна
E-mail:
volkov.fop@gmail.com
Phone:
380442053257, 380442053257
EDRPOU:
2596311956

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Offer:

₴80,975.00 including VAT

Status:

Not considered

Documents:

Documents submitted with the offer

Document name Document type Confidentiality Date of publishing
srt
13-Лист-згода з проектом договору.pdf

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Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Jan 29, 13:46
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10-Лист-пояснення щодо сертифікації.pdf

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Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Jan 29, 13:46
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9-Досвід виконання аналог.дог..pdf

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Date of publishing:

Jan 29, 13:46
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4-Виписка.pdf

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Jan 29, 13:46
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18-Авторизаційний лист канфар.pdf

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Date of publishing:

Jan 29, 13:46
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1-Довідка про повноваження та підпис.pdf

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Date of publishing:

Jan 29, 13:46
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11-Довідка МТБ.pdf

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Date of publishing:

Jan 29, 13:46
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12-ГЛ_товар новий.pdf

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Jan 29, 13:46
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8-Довідка_уповноважена особа.pdf

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Jan 29, 13:46
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15-ГЛ санкції.pdf

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Date of publishing:

Jan 29, 13:46
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16-Лист-погодження з відхиленням.pdf

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Date of publishing:

Jan 29, 13:46
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2-Відомості про підприємство.pdf

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Date of publishing:

Jan 29, 13:46
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21-СЕС стол. прибори.pdf

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Date of publishing:

Jan 29, 13:46
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sign.p7s

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Date of publishing:

Jan 29, 13:50
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19-Авторизаційний лист ЗСП.pdf

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Date of publishing:

Jan 29, 13:46
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17-Технічні вимоги. Порівняльна табоиця.pdf

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Date of publishing:

Jan 29, 13:46
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14-ГЛ про відповідність.pdf

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Date of publishing:

Jan 29, 13:46
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22-СЕС фарфор.pdf

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Jan 29, 13:46
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6-Витяг_ФОП Волков.pdf

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Jan 29, 13:46
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23-Цінова пропозиція.pdf

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Price offer

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Date of publishing:

Jan 29, 13:46
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7-Лист-згода на обробку даних+документи Волков.pdf

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20-Серт відп столові прибори.PDF

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5-Витяг з реєстру платників єдиного податку.PDF

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Date of publishing:

Jan 29, 13:46

№:

5

Participant:

Name:
Віктор Гавриш
E-mail:
direktorat@meta.ua
Phone:
+380505215721
EDRPOU:
2024423633

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Offer:

₴81,290.15 including VAT

Status:

Not considered

Documents:

Documents submitted with the offer

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10. Довідка з відомостями про учасника.pdf

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Documents confirming of qualification

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Date of publishing:

Jan 30, 15:11
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sign.p7s

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Confidentiality:

Date of publishing:

Jan 30, 15:15
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14. Лист-згода на обробку персональних даних.pdf

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Documents confirming of accordance

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Date of publishing:

Jan 30, 15:11
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5. Пропозиція.pdf

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Price offer

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23. Гарантійний лист щодо відсутності заборони.pdf

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Date of publishing:

Jan 30, 15:11
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15. 16. МТБ.pdf

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Date of publishing:

Jan 30, 15:11
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21. Лист згода щодо погодження з істотними умовами договору.pdf

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Date of publishing:

Jan 30, 15:11
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8. Оригінал паспорту та РНОКПП.pdf

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Jan 30, 15:11
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3. Гарантійний лист не перебування в експлуатації.pdf

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Date of publishing:

Jan 30, 15:11
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4. Авторизаційні листи.pdf

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Jan 30, 15:11
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1. Довідка на підтвердження тех вимогам.pdf

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Technical specifications

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Date of publishing:

Jan 30, 15:11
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18. Довідка щодо виконання аналогічного досвіду.pdf

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Documents confirming of qualification

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Date of publishing:

Jan 30, 15:11
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20. Лист відгук.pdf

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19. Аналогічний договір.pdf

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11. Довідка.pdf

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24. Лист-згода дотримання вимог.pdf

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6.7. Лист-пояснення щодо статуту.pdf

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9. Витяг з реєстру платників ЄП.pdf

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22. Гарантійний лист щодо відповідності характеристикам в оголошенні.pdf

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2. Висновки сан-епідеміологічної експертизи.pdf

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